tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post114775398232656648..comments2023-04-17T16:38:42.472+03:00Comments on Aunt Laya: Gossip anyone?Laya http://www.blogger.com/profile/03865087965752964138noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1153457713198931542006-07-21T07:55:00.000+03:002006-07-21T07:55:00.000+03:00Super color scheme, I like it! Good job. Go on.&ra...Super color scheme, I like it! Good job. Go on.<BR/><A HREF="http://poker.we5lw.be/poker_cash_games.html" REL="nofollow">»</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1151996393067708222006-07-04T09:59:00.000+03:002006-07-04T09:59:00.000+03:00Really amazing! Useful information. All the best.&...Really amazing! Useful information. 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I wonder how these "friends" would feel if they had to listen to their kids talk about being teased by their peers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1148986510288764012006-05-30T13:55:00.000+03:002006-05-30T13:55:00.000+03:00I live in a small town and, in a similar situation...I live in a small town and, in a similar situation to one of the previous posters, am faced with such decisions. <BR/><BR/>Without going into details, there is such a couple living amongst us. The children of the married partner are appalled and embarassed by their parent's behavior, and the child of the unmarried partner are emotional basket cases. <BR/><BR/>These people have been warned repeatedly that their behavior is simply inappropriate, but continue to engage in such.<BR/><BR/>The part that rings a bell here is their self-rightous defense that the people who object to their behavior are "spreading gossip" -- they have (tried to)turn the story around from focus on their own immoral behavior to accusations of "everyone is gossiping about us -- poor us" as though the gossip is the main issue. <BR/><BR/>In addition, there are well-meaning friends who sooth the couple by agreeing "yes, you poor dears, everyone is gossiping about you, poor you" and by doing so, they actually encourage these people to continue to engage in their relationship! <BR/><BR/>So it's not so simple, saying "don't gossip". Sometimes, not speaking out results in a deeper sin being committed, which might be averted if the individual were to feel public sanctions. <BR/>Laya, I think that you have to make a clear distinction here -- when is gossip unacceptable, and when do people need to inform each other of immoral behavior so that people are made aware of who it would be best to stay away from (and keep their spouses and children away from!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1148587175968070572006-05-25T22:59:00.000+03:002006-05-25T22:59:00.000+03:00Quote for the day: "Believe nothing against anothe...Quote for the day: "Believe nothing against another but on good authority; nor report what may hurt another, unless it be a greater hurt to conceal it."--William Penn<BR/><BR/>I like this quote because it says in one sentance the essence of my message. If it is a greater hurt to conceal something, then it must be revealed. Even in this kind of circumstance, there is a lot that needs to be considered. <BR/><BR/>Mostly in life though, in our day to day living, there is more we need to be careful NOT to say.<BR/><BR/>And for the times when we need to speak up to protect others, may we each find the strength to do what is right.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting everyone. <BR/><BR/>Love,<BR/>Aunt LayaLaya https://www.blogger.com/profile/03865087965752964138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1148551668071545612006-05-25T13:07:00.000+03:002006-05-25T13:07:00.000+03:00Hm-m-m-m. Where have I heard this before?We've go...Hm-m-m-m. Where have I heard this before?<BR/><BR/>We've got a lady living down the street from us who encourages a married man to hang around her. All the neighbors see them, the guy's kids see them, the kids' friends see them, the wife's friends see them....and whenever anyone says something, the two of them scream "Gossip! Oh dear me, everyone is gossiping about us!"<BR/><BR/>Now it's true, they might just be having long and deep conversations. Maybe about Torah. Maybe about Kabbalah. Maybe about the deeper meaning of the world.<BR/><BR/>But com'mon. <BR/><BR/>The two of them have done more to destroy the lives of innocent bystanders (the guy's wife and kids) than most people do in a lifetime. <BR/><BR/>So we're not supposed to tell other people in the neighborhood what's going on? In a case like this, I think that it's MORE of a sin to sit by quietly than to warn others that the two of them are putzing around together and everyone else should STAY AWAY FROM THEM!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1148499539148002052006-05-24T22:38:00.000+03:002006-05-24T22:38:00.000+03:00Greets to the webmaster of this wonderful site! Ke...Greets to the webmaster of this wonderful site! Keep up the good work. 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There are p...There's another side to the coin too. There are people who behave unethically and inappropriately, relying on the community's reluctance to speak "gossip" which allows them to their hurtful behavior.<BR/><BR/>The laws of Lashon Hara are quite clear....if the person who is behaving unethically has been warned and continues with their behavior; if the person's behavior is poisoning the community and by speaking about it your intention is to prevent more harm from occuring; if the intention is to warn others away from someone whose behavior is unethical -- these are all valid reasons for letting the community know about what is happening.<BR/><BR/>It's pretty easy for an individual to turn attention away from his/her actions by crying that they are the "victim" of a lashon hara compaign. Our abhorrance of gossip makes this an easy "out". <BR/><BR/>It is up to the community to differentiate between a truely innocent individual who is the victim of lashon hara, and one who is using the charge to deflect attention from their own immoral behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1147873244840604412006-05-17T16:40:00.000+03:002006-05-17T16:40:00.000+03:00Hey Faith,Thanks for visiting my site, I do hope t...Hey Faith,<BR/>Thanks for visiting my site, I do hope to see you and was inspired to write some other entries after visiting yours. Keep me posted so I can dance when your new sweet baby arrives.<BR/><3 LayaLaya https://www.blogger.com/profile/03865087965752964138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23451682.post-1147821196863897832006-05-17T02:13:00.000+03:002006-05-17T02:13:00.000+03:00That is about the best advice I have ever heard. I...That is about the best advice I have ever heard. It is so easy for women escpecially to fall into this. I stopped by to say thankyou for the kind words on my blog. I'll be back:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com